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0859 - Two cents more on the Kerry insult

By now, everyone's weighed in on the latest John Kerry flap. Even so, I can't resist.

For the few of you who haven't heard about it, Kerry said in a campaign speech to college students that, if they worked hard and studied, they'd succeed; if not, they'd get "stuck in Iraq". This was understandably seen as an insult to our troops. Kerry claims he misspoke on an intended joke slamming Bush, and refuses to apologize for attacking the president.

What's missing here is that Kerry doesn't seem to recognize that insulting the troops, no matter how or why, is a Bad Idea. An apology to them wouldn't cost him anything, and it'd be the right thing to do. Something along the lines of "I meant to slam Bush, and I'm sorry that it came out wrong and insulted the troops" would do just fine. That he refuses to do that speaks volumes about the low regard in which he actually holds the folks in our armed services.

This is just another example of the hypocrisy of the Left. Whenever a conservative makes a joke that they don't like, they tear him to pieces. Where's their vitriol for Kerry?

current mood: [mood icon] irate

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From:ginafae
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So - by left, do you mean the Democratic party? Or do you mean social liberals in general?

It's something that always confuses me when reading your posts. Don't get me wrong, I am perfectly happy to have you feel either way...

But it seems odd that I would be grouped in as a hypocrite simply because I am socially liberal. I am fiscally conservative. I hate both parties, and even more, hate the media frenzy that surrounds all of it.

Just lookin' for some clarification. Generalizations make me queazy.
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From:jmaynard
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I mean the Democrat party, in general, and those to the left of the spectrum...people like John Kerry and Al Sharpton and Ted Kennedy and Al Gore and Al Franken.

Someone like you who's fiscally conservative is not part of the Left. The Left thinks we, and especially those of us who are financially successful, don't pay enough taxes. They subscribe to the old line "tax the rich, feed the poor, till there are no rich no more". They think all problems can be solved by giving poor people money, and see no problem taking at gunpoint from those who are better off.

I also don't mean to say that individual leftists are hypocrites. I do mean to say they are willing to look the other way when some of their political persuasion are, in the name of "the greater good" - which usually means letting them run everyone else's life.
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From:ginafae
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Ah. So it's the fiscal side that really gets to you more than the social side? It seems like so many people have forgotten about economics and focus on morals anymore that it makes me crazy. Heck, if I have my way, morals wouldn't be legislated... though obviously there has to be a line drawn somewhere. (Murder, theiving, etc.)

I am not a fan of massive taxation, though I do think that alot of social programs are important. And, of course, that requires taxation. I wonder how many sides of our government could be taken over by private endeavors... though I fully realize that the Gov't took over for a reason - usually the private endeavors were failing miserably.

*shrug*

I think I understand your position a little better...

Though I think I'd like to point out that EVERYone looks the other way when someone they love/like/admire/agreewith does wrong. It's human nature! And really, it's what makes us able to get along so well most of the time. Doesn't mean that in this situation, he shouldn't say "I messed up, I am sorry", but I understand why it's only the people on the opposite side who are saying it's a terriblehorriblenogoodverybad thing, while people who like and admire him say, eh, he misspoke, no biggie.
From:randombeing
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"Taking it at gunpoint?" Well, if that isn't the most psychotic thing I've read all day.

So sorry about your little airplane dream.
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From:jmaynard
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There's nothing psychotic about it. If you don't pay your taxes, men with guns will come to take them from you. How is that not "taking it at gunpoint"?
From:_ayn_
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Come now, we all know that the Left should be renamed "The Party of Hypocrisy".
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From:kazriko
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As a libertarian, I think his comments are completely wrong. Our troops who volunteer there are often brighter than the college students he was talking to when making those jokes. The military really tries to go after the top 10% of our graduating students when they can get them. Up until a year or so ago, they were also extremely selective on who they would take. Small misdemeanors would often cause them to exclude someone from the military. They loosened up these requirements a little to forgive some small mistakes recently because they found they were turning too many people away for silly mistakes people often make as teenagers.
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From:damsel_ophelia
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Regardless of one's political position, the men and women in the armed forces are fighting with their lives on the line for our freedom, which includes the freedom to make stupid comments about the President. They deserve our utmost respect and thanks. While I am a dyed-in-the-wool liberal (all though not particularly a dyed-in-the-wool Democrat), I believe Kerry NEEDS to make an apology...and stop making the rest of us look bad.
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From:circuit_four
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This is just another example of the hypocrisy of the Left. Whenever a conservative makes a joke that they don't like, they tear him to pieces. Where's their vitriol for Kerry?

The same place the Right's is when they slam a crippled war vet? Or a bereaved mom? Or a Parkinson's victim? Duh. But no, you'll keep persuading yourself it's the result of some moral perfidy exclusive to those other guys in that other tribe, because American politics just wouldn't be fun without it's fanatics. Thanks a bunch. *circus music plays*
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From:foolscap001
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While not certain, I would guess that by "crippled war vet" you're referring to Max Cleland. Having just read his Wikipedia entry, while Cleland is to be respected for his valorous action in combat, the incident that led to his disability skates the edge of meriting a Darwin Award.

There ought to be a Latin term for the opposite of the ad hominem, the attempt to place someone's statements or actions beyond criticism because he or she is a victim.
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From:cathyr19355
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Ghod knows I have no love for Kerry, but I don't think his remark was hypocrisy; I think it was simple ignorance. Coming from his relatively affluent background, he has no idea that a job with the Army can be, for an ambitious kid with no money and no family connections, a great way to get a technical education of a quality he or she could not afford otherwise.

The fact that Kerry doesn't seem to understand that he *did* insult the troops, however, shows an appalling lack of insight from a man who wants, or at least once wanted, to be President.
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From:kazriko
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Cue X-files music:

One possibility of what Kerry was saying...

In the Vietnam era, college students were exempted from the draft if they kept their grades up. Given that the Democrats are on their way to skating into congress, and several democrats have floated the idea of reviving the draft, perhaps what Kerry is saying is "Stay in school, get good grades, and you can escape the coming draft we'll implement when we gain power."

All of this "He's saying the troops are stupid" bit could be masking the true sinister meaning of his words. ;)

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