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Sunday, 4 July 2004


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0942 - A better Saturday

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From:jmaynard
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I've already said that I let the comments at the panel get to me more than I should have. As for feeling rage at Saturday morning, I'm not going to apologize for it. I was ready to put Friday night behind me, but apparently nobody else was. (Yes, I should have made the attempt at a peace offering. I have no clue as to whether or not it would have been accepted. I didn't know that same moderator was on the Saturday morning panel until I walked in, shortly after the panel started - which I think even you will admit was not the time to be pulling her aside for a peace offering.)

What you term attacks on the panelists in my LJ was no such thing. I specifically did not mention anyone's name because I did not wish to attack them, only what went on. There's a difference.
From:raptavio
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I disagree with you on that. Everyone who was at the panel and many who weren't knew exactly who you were referring to. This is a small fandom, and we know each other.

I also disagree with you about the rage thing. It was, as you admit it was on Friday, very inappropriate. Being ignored on Saturday was an entirely appropriate consequence for your actions on Friday, and you should accept that.
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From:jmaynard
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Everyone who was at the panel and many who weren't knew exactly who you were referring to. This is a small fandom, and we know each other.
And how am I, a newcomer, supposed to know that? 2000 people at a con is, to me, a large crowd, not a small fandom.

If you feel that being ignored was an appropriate consequence for my actions on Friday, then you've confirmed that I have no need to appear at any further Twin Cities cons...for, by that standard, there's no reason to expect that I will ever not be ignored.
From:raptavio
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There again you are wrong. Peace offerings and apologies are very routinely accepted in the fandom. But they must be made to be accepted.

I expect you'll withdraw anyway, that seems to be your way. You seem to have a long history of entering a fandom and quickly leaving. I wonder if you'll ever question that the problem lies with you, and not all those fandoms.
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From:jmaynard
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Oh, I do have a long history, eh? For someone who only ever heard of me a week ago, you know one hell of a lot about me.

...and what you claim to know is wrong. No, I don't have a long history of backing out of fandoms. Just ask the folks who I had dinner with last night about that. They flew and drove up from Texas, and I drove up from Fairmont, to have dinner together. (Not solely, in their case, but we did make an effort to get together.) We've all known each other for more than 25 years, and have worked together in several related areas in that time. The same goes for more than a few other things I've been involved with.

In fact, I went to CONvergence fully expecting to find yet another group to spend too much time with. I was sadly disappointed. At this point, any group with which you are as closely associated as Twin Cities SF fandom appears to be is a group I want nothing to do with.

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