Yet another reason Debian sucks - Jay Maynard

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Thursday, 17 November 2005


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0401 - Yet another reason Debian sucks

I'm in Madrid, trying to set up a system here for the customer. They need a TN3270 program to talk to Hercules. No problem, right? Just install x3270 and all will be well...

...except that this is Debian, home of the political overriding the technical. x3270 was removed from Debian because they didn't like the license. I can't just say "apt-get install x3270" like I can everything else.

What a useless nuisance.

current mood: [mood icon] pissed off

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From:korgmeister
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Hmm, so what distro do you reccomend.

(Has a sinking feeling you're going to reply Gentoo. Which I mentally categorise under "No fucking way")
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From:foolscap001
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From what I read, it's not been removed--just moved into "non-free". (OTOH, I've not dealt with Debian directly; the apt-based distro I've been using is Ubuntu, so I could be wrong.)
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From:jmaynard
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Nope. It was in "non-free" for a while, but now it's completely gone. Debian's lawyers disagree with those for every other distribution out there and claim that the license does not grant redistribution rights.
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From:yakko
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I can understand the reason you hate Debian, now. I'd just find a .deb or use an additional apt repo, but maybe you have a reason for not doing that.

I ignore the political crap and maintain my own repo of "forbidden" software for my servers. I need to do things, dammit.
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From:jmaynard
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Exactly. The point of running computers is to get work done. Debian has forgotten that, in their rush to be simon-pure on "free software" doctrine.

The solution, BTW, was to suck down old .debs from the oldstable distribution. They installed fine. Now, if we could get X running on the box...but that's not necessarily my problem.
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From:wakkowarner
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debian is always 2 years behind every other linux distro anyway. I think they're still using kernel 1.2.13.

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