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1334 - Left-wing moonbattery: an example from my friends list

kinkyturtle, who was once a reasonable person able to separate politics from friendship, posted a rant that's typical of the moonbattery that the Left has spewed for the past 8 years. I'm not going to spend time on dissecting the outright kookiness of it - it almost parodies itself - except for one point:

"It seems like they're hoping some nut will assassinate him."

No. I, for one, am not. There would be two problems:
1) Saint Obama would be immediately canonized as a martyr to the Leftist cause.
2) We'd have Joe Biden the plagiarist as president.

We've taken entirely too long as it is to shake off the influence of Saint JFK. We don't need another one.

The best case if Obama's elected - and it's a nightmare, but the least horrible of the possibilities - is that his socialist policies are rammed through an unyielding Congress and inflicted on the folks who are actually making America's economy work, they have the effects that anyone with half a brain and half a sense of history would predict, and the country realizes that socialism has never worked, cannot work, and cannot be made to work, and repudiates it for all time. Unfortunately, it'll take a minimum of two years of rising unemployment and the economy in the gutter before we have an opportunity to change it.

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From:wakkowarner
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I think the only thing to be learned from this post is that you do a real shitty job of keeping friends.

Taking passive-aggressive swipes at people in your own blog instead of manning up and replying in theirs might have something to do with it.
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From:jmaynard
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I didn't reply in KT's LJ because he's asked me not to comment there.
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From:phanatic
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Please tell me that "he's a plagiarist" isn't your biggest objection to Joe Biden. The Clipper chip, the RAVE act, he's done so many more horrible things than that.
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From:jmaynard
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My biggest objection is that Biden has no concept of what it's like to live in the real world; he's been a senator for almost all of his adult life.
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From:altivo
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Odd thing that. We already have rising unemployment and the economy in the gutter, after eight years of an "anti-socialist" GOP-dominated regime. You can't blame a condition that already exists on politicians who aren't even in power yet.

Really, Jay, you've been grasping at straws for days now. Tell us something good about McCain instead of trying to tear down his opponent, and people might want to listen.
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This.

Really, Jay, you've been grasping at straws for days now. Tell us something good about McCain instead of trying to tear down his opponent, and people might want to listen.

And seriously, seriously this. Thank you.
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Well, I hope they don't shoot him. Biden is already a frothing at the mouth anti-gun person. Him as President would be even worse.
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I will say that I have no trust in the Republicans. I can't even point a finger at someone with any confidence as to why that is, but the fact is the trust is gone. I'm sure my tune would be different if I was getting favorable treatment from them, but that's where politics stops and human nature starts.

I'm not saying the Democrats are any better. Both sides are lying and full of shit if you want my candid opinion. Unfortunately, that assessment can be applied to any issue they want to discuss. I think it's quite a miracle if voters go to vote and feel their choices are properly informed as opposed to being biased with political muck from both sides.
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The Worst Case....

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The dollar has collapsed. Inflation has increased. Nominal wages have been stagnant, and real wages have dropped drastically. The stock market was stagnant even before the crash, and now it's well below it's 2001 level in nominal dollars. In real dollars, it's almost halved. The national debt has nearly doubled to over 10 trillion dollars. (That's about $100k/tax-payer.)

We're stuck in an expensive and unwinnable war, and yet after eight years of that... you STILL think that your team (the one that has had control of the country for the past eight years) is the right one.

I guess my point is that if at this point in time, you can't see how badly W. fucked everything up, then there is no hope of any partisan ever admitting that his preferred team screwed up.

Congratulations sir, on neatly proving that partisans are completely unable to accept facts that disagree with their ideologies, even when 8 years of experience shows that they're wrong. Hopefully someday you'll wake up, start using your brain, and apologize to the rest of us for supporting nonsensical bullshit, and spewing hate and bile at us when we poointed out that you were being an idiot.

P.S. please drive your car off a cliff for real. You said you'd do it. Now do it, you fucking pussy.
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The dollar has collapsed.
The dollar is rebounding, and is stronger against the euro than it has been in some time. This is part of the reason oil prices have retreated.

Inflation has increased.
The Federal Reserve, and every economist who's expressed an opinion, says you're wrong. If anything, they're talking about the risk of deflation.

We're stuck in an expensive and unwinnable war,
Don't look now, but the MSM has been lying to you. We're winning the war in Iraq. We're giving control back to the Iraqis as they become ready to take it. Did you miss the story about the Marines pulling out of Fallujah earlier this week? Even CNN reported on how Baghdad is now a thriving business center.

the one that has had control of the country for the past eight years
You mean six of the previous eight. The Democrats took control of Congress in 2006, and earned themselves an even lower approval rating than Bush.

I'm not going to sit here and say that the Bush administration has gotten everything right. You need look no farther than my posts about dealing with the TSA to see that. Even so, the kind of "change" Obama is promising will be an utter disaster fo this country's economy, and nothing you can say will convince me otherwise - for he's damned by his own unscripted words about "spreading the wealth around". That's within spitting distance of "from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs", and I will fight against that with my dying breath.
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You'll notice that, even though I'm still an ardent Obama supporter (for what that's worth, I can't vote for him, I can only encourage others to) I did recently give out props to McCain for debunking one of the rumours when someone repeated it to his face. But, in order to be responsible citizens, they need to do this all the time - if I was McCain, if I heard "Kill him!" at a rally, I would immediately call a halt to the chanting and say how, well, illegal it is to kill him, and maybe start calling him "a decent, family man" again. *That* kind of talk is scary. Maybe it's the "liberal media", maybe it's because I'm here in Canada, but I haven't heard Obama or his supporters say similar about McCain, I've only heard him say good things about him as a veteran and a fellow senator - who he al;so disagrees with on how to run the country.

At the end of every message from the GOP camp, there is the obligatory "I'm John McCain and I approve this message." Instead of just taking the sound file on the end as required by law, maybe John McCain should listen to what he is approving. Maybe he should be putting a stop to some of the more radical calls out there (like those for Obama's head) - you put forward some good reasons not to kill him (similar to what I have responded for those who said Bush must die, even though I disagree with Bush on almost everything). And, most importantly, *if* Obama wins the election, McCain must immediately (ie in his concession speech), plead for unity and for his followers to work with the new President "as I will". (Yes, the same holds true for Obama's followers if McCain wins, but the point here is the racist attitudes of McCain's followers, not as prevalent with Obama's).

"A house divided cannot stand" - A. Lincoln
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From:foolscap001
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Perhaps Obama supporters go in for deeds rather than words; recall the woman who was beaten with her McCain sign, and the guys who threw a Molotov cocktail at a McCain/Palin sign in front of a house.
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From:thecanuckguy
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Solidarity forever!

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Oh, and as to the socialism not working thing, I"ve said it before and I'll say it again, take a look about 500 miles to the north of ya. You'll see a sign: "Welcome to Canada: 141 years of successful socialist rule."

(You and other Americans seem to confuse socialism with dictatorships (Cuba, USSR, PR China are dictatorships (one-party states), Canada, France, UK, are socialist (well, Canada under the Tories less so, but more socialist than the USA, and Manitoba's ruling NDP are definitely socialist.))
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How much do you pauy in taxes? How much do you get to keep out of your earnings? Why does the vaunted Canadian helath system (that Obama wants so desperately to emulate) keep resulting in people coming to the US for medical care they can't get at home? Why does Canada, and France, and the UK, keep moving awway from socialism every chance it gets?

Sorry. Socialism is a failed ideology based on nothing but the politics of envy: "He makes too much money. Let's take it away from him."

Life is unfair. Any attempt to ignore that fact is doomed to failure.
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I look forward to your explaination, eight years from now, after Obama's made everything awesome, how you totally weren't wrong, and how he wasn't responsible for any of it. ^.^
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From:jmaynard
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For the sake of this country, I hope you're right. History and economics tell us the opposite is far, far more likely to happen.
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...my biggest fear behind, even just an assassination attempt, would be the likely hood of a nationwide race riot.

I think the best that can be hoped for is that somehow, the Democrat super majority can be avoided. At least then the damage done can be minimized. I think once we move past a certain point, there will be no recovery and totalitarianism would be inevitable (although another 20-30 years away). It happened to Germany, and in a very similar fashion to how it's occurring here.

I had initially planned on voting a straight party Libertarian ticket since there were not true smaller government conservatives offered on my ballot, but seeing the importance of the congressional races, I'm considering suspending my usual "vote on principle above all else" credo in the interest of, hopefully, preserving some semblance of liberty (I will still be voting Bob Barr for president though).
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From:ipslore
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Also: it's one thing to disagree, but I have absolutely no idea how KT's post counts as moonbattery.
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From:jmaynard
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Just the contention that those of us who oppose Obama are "hoping someone will assassinate him" is enough to send it into Daily Kos-caliber moonbat land.
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