Stealing the election, ACORN style - Jay Maynard

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Monday, 3 November 2008


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0716 - Stealing the election, ACORN style

Politico has an article today on how ACORN's fraudulent registrations, enabled by deliberately terrible quality control at the very minimum, if not outright fraud, can and do translate into fraudulent votes.

Make no mistake: the left, aided and abetted by ACORN - the same organization Barack Obama worked with and trained people for for years - is trying to steal this election. The same people who rant about the 2000 and 2004 elections being stolen think that vote fraud shouldn't be investigated and eradicated. Now we see why: because they think stealing elections is fine as long as they're the ones doing it.

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From:sethb
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Can you explain how someone who wants to vote fraudulently gets any benefit from registering via ACORN rather than some other way?
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From:jmaynard
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That's not it at all. ACORN has the ability to make fraudulent registrations, and fraudulent votes, in job lots. That's what makes them and their Obama-trained tactics dangerous.
From:sethb
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ACORN has no more ability to make fraudulent registrations than you or I do. Anybody can hand in sheets of registrations.
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From:jmaynard
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ACORN can do it in much greater quantity, however, overwhelming the system - even if it cares, unlike, say, Ohio, where the Secretary of State has been vigorously resisting her duty to ensure the integrity of the rolls - and who was elected with significant ACORN help.
From:sethb
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What bulk interface does ACORN have access to that you don't?
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From:jmaynard
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The same bulk interface any organization does: they can throw lots of manpower at it. They can go out and collect lots of fraudulent cards, much more easily than I can.
From:sethb
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You have a computer with a printer, right?

Some of ACORN's contractors got paid by the name, so they invented a bunch of them. They wouldn't try to vote them, nobody is paying for that (aside from the fact that it's risky).

An individual who wanted to commit fraud didn't need ACORN's help, and might well be better off registering individually (therefore subject to less scrutiny).
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From:wakkowarner
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Well I sure hope they can get all these fake people they fake-registered to go fake-vote tomorrow.

You're a lunatic.
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From:jmaynard
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ISTR hearing about you screaming long and loud about the 2000 election. You prove my point: you only object to elections being stolen if you're not doing the stealing.
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From:wakkowarner
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1) you'd have to be Trig Palin to think any of the phony registrants would actually attempt to vote tomorrow, let alone make it through the system in the first place.

2) thanks for admitting the 2000 election was stolen.
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From:jmaynard
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1) People have already attempted to vote with those fraudulent registrations. How many, we'll never know.

2) I admit no such thing. The 2000 election was decided according to the law, fair and square. ACORN is merely trying to do unto others what they think was done unto them, instead of working to ensure that the election is run fairly and squarely.
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From:wakkowarner
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1) okay, prove it. Put up or shut up.

2) I guess that's why they've got people in every state, observing the voting process. (You know, so that we don't have to let the Supreme Court decide who the next President is by a 1-vote margin. Again.)
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From:jmaynard
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1) Start with the voters in Ohio that were forced to withdraw their votes to avoid prosecution.

2) You mean like the Republican poll watchers who were thrown out of the polling place in Philadelphia because they were in the minority? And I see you're still grousing about the Supreme Court, which didn't decide; they merely told the Florida Sureme Court to follow Florida law.
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From:wakkowarner
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Start with the voters in Ohio that were forced to withdraw their votes to avoid prosecution.

Uh, that had nothing to do with ACORN. The case involved 13 campaign workers who were living in the state and didn't meet citizenship requirements. A whole thirteen people. Hoo boy. You really blew the roof off their vote fraud scheme.

That they were caught and that their votes were nullified is actually proof the system worked and prevented voter fraud, isn't it? Is that all you've got?

As for your second "point"... read the update; it seems like a clerical error? But, you know what, I bet those evil, meanie Democrats had something to do with it anyway, just so you'd have something else to bloviate about.
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From:jmaynard
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How do we know that's all that's happening? We don't. ACORN has filed thousands upon thousands of fraudulent and illegal voter registration forms, and the Ohio Secretary of State successfulyl argued that she didn't have to make sure they were valid and make the information available for them to be independently verified. Thus, we can't trust the results out of Ohio. If not there, why can we trust the results anywhere else?

As for the "clerical error", that sounds like a perfect excuse. The day is half gone, and there wre no Republican poll watchers in several precincts due to a trumped-up "clerical error". As if that wasn't enough, the Black Panthers were doing "security" at at least one polling place to make sure nobody got intimidated...or, at least, nobody they cared about. What are they afraid of? Voter intimidation in Philadelphia? Like so much else the Left supports, it's okkay only if it's the conservatives getting intimidated.
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From:wakkowarner
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How do we know that's all that's happening? We don't.

So let's pretend it is? Do you understand how the voter registration process works? Any and all suspicious registrations would've been discarded. Anyone showing up to vote without proper identification who isn't listed on the rolls isn't going to be allowed to vote.

ACORN has filed thousands upon thousands of fraudulent and illegal voter registration forms

You mean these?

About 200,000 newly registered Ohio voters have been flagged by the secretary of state because their names, addresses, driver's-license numbers, and/or Social Security numbers don't match other state or federal records.


Looks like they were well aware of this last month and that something was done about them then. The rest is just utter paranoia on your part at this point.

As for the "clerical error", that sounds like a perfect excuse.

Uh, well, actually:

HARRISBURG, Pa. - The Philadelphia district attorney's office says it has restored about a half-dozen Republican election observers who were kicked out of polling places.

Spokeswoman Cathie Abookire said Tuesday that the partisan disputes were compounded by a misunderstanding about the rules that govern certified election observers.


And that's all we know at this point. You can speculate all you want about it, but it just kind of makes you look foolish.
From:tetragon
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As an Australian, I can report that down here that US elections are seen and reported on as the utter joke that they are. The United States does it all so wrong again, and again, and again, and nothing changes while most Americans find it easier to be fed their opinions off the likes of CNN and Fox News, as directed by the 2-party system.

Complaining about how bad it is, only when it's your team thats on the losing side, is just the punchline.
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From:thecanuckguy
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And they're not offering him a hard copy of the book?

On-topic (because, given enough creativity, I can turn any post into any topic): check to see if the last few pages of this book isn't fraudulent voter registrations that people have been printing up.

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